this is another great video from theramin trees called "punishing doubt".
fantastic reasoning, and very well presented!.
really worth watching!!.
Rainbow Troll "...if Jehovah existed he would disapprove of child molestation and should therefore do something to stop it"
Where did you get that idea about the producer
I noticed that he mentions Jehovah's Witnesses in the context of child abuse towards the end. The scandal is spreading. Good!
i note the recent post that quoted 1 timothy 2:11-12 and colossians 1:23 which place women at a level that is lower to men.
the poster accused paul of this mysoginy, but that is not correct.. 1 timothy, 2 timothy, titus, colossians, ephesians and hebrews were written after paul's death.. paul was not a mysoginist; he made full use of women in leadership roles.
he wrote that in god's sight there is neither male nor female, for all are one in god's sight.. doug.
Cor 14:34-35 is likely an insertion to a much later copy of the original letter of Paul. Those two verses seem to break the flow of the text around them.
which world is this?_________________when the doctor pulled my screaming body out of mom all those 7 decades ago, i landed in a post-wwii world.it was--compared to today's world--an alien planet.. the world i live in today has nothing in common with the world in which i grew up.. there were no cell phones back then--there were black telephones with a dial-tone and an operator who placed your call.
everywhere you found telephone booths!
a call was a nickle.where did all those telephone booths go?i dunno.where did my whole world go?i dunno.. tv sets were huge boxes with tubes and small screens.
7 children? No wonder you are broke.
Things change rapidly. And the best we can do is to keep up with the fast moving, quick turning Jehovah's chariot.
my wife has been trying to convince me that the organization is hinting at the possibility of making some older sisters ministerial servants.
she is awake to a lot of the false doctrines, but is still clinging to the hope that the org may become more progressive in the future.
anyone else pick up on this?
@anointed1 "Sisters are basically women...But women are women"
Were you raised in the "truth"? Are you still mentally in?
You just don't get rid of thousands of years of physical and psychological abuse overnight. Many women are kicking ass (men's asses) already and will continue to move towards equality with men. Just give them a little time.
i've been following this forum for a couple of years now, but it's only just now that i've decided to register.
it's been quite a long and strenous process leaving the org, having been borned and raised in and spent so much time in.
i'm so gratefull there's the internet these days which helps new people find their way out of this and other religions.
Welcome LETB!! Always happy to have people join my camp (non-JW). I agree 100% regarding young people leaving. They are the ones the we should be the most concerned about. It's unfair and cruel to rob them of their time, goals, dreams; their entire life.
eurgh!
more patronizing and uninformed reasoning from the "experts" at bethel.
this time tackling the sensitive subject of those attracted the the same sex.
Through my biology classes in school, I learned that during the adolescent years, hormone levels can fluctuate greatly.
Are you kidding me? My hormones and libido in my adolescence stayed very high all the time, no fluctuation. And if my male friends were telling the truth, they too were horny all the time. Today, at 52, I may have to make a mental effort to get aroused, but back in my teen years no mental efforts got it down. I had to use physical violence to get it down.
my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.
pretty telling.. .
They have plenty of capital in real estate that gradually will be liquidated as they lose membership. It seems that their real estate investment will slowly be transferred to law firms, counseling services, and victims.
2017 can be considered the "1799" of Charles T. Russell. He was off by 218 years.
i would like to apologize in advance if any of my information on the biology side of this discussion is incorrect, because unfortunately it is not my strongest scientific subject on account of my being subtly encouraged to view it with distrust.. i've recently debated the of subject of evolution with my father, i made the argument that when viewed over several million years random mutation provides a more than adequate explanation for humans having evolved from a common ancestor with chimpanzees.
then he got this derisive look on his face a waved his hand saying "evolution's explanation for everything is the amount of time involved.".
so i decided i would examine this mathematically.
You may be missing that it takes two to tango. So through sexual reproduction the parents (two) bring their own individual inherited mutations and add another 10. 2x10+10 =30. The offspring actually gets 30 mutations, not 10
my wife has been trying to convince me that the organization is hinting at the possibility of making some older sisters ministerial servants.
she is awake to a lot of the false doctrines, but is still clinging to the hope that the org may become more progressive in the future.
anyone else pick up on this?
Richard
the qualities that are referenced in Timothy and Titus.
Regarding women, the only qualities Jehovah cares about are referenced in Numbers 31:17-18. Women should have their hymen intact. Otherwise, kill them all.
i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.
i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.
it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.
Richard,
You are missing the point or you pretend to be missing the point. The big problem is not how many elders or ministerial servants were guilty of child abuse. The point is that the Watchtower knew about all these cases (1006) and chose to do nothing, leaving the perpetrator unpunished and free to strike again
